As a member of the veterinary medical examiner's board, MR. Maben stated, "I can understand — having practiced for years — exactly how he might fall into the trap of doing some of the things that were done," This is in reference to Bill Baber brutally stabbing dogs and cats in the heart, placing his foot on their necks to restrain them, and allowing the animals to stagger around his feet dying. If Mr. Maben can understand how a vet can become a barbarian, he is likely one himself.